Curse

skyfox · Jun 30, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

if you play a large enough amount of games here are the calculated results:

on the 3x3 board:
you get 9.444... tickets per play - 1 game costs 10 tickets -> you loose 0.555... tickets per play
it doesnt matter where you are standing!

on the 4x4 board:
you get 1.875 tickets per play - 1 game costs 2 tickets -> you loose 0.125 tickets per play
it doesnt matter where you are standing!

-> bank always wins!

if you play the games for earning titles, which is the only good reason to play them:

if you loose 5000 games you earn the hapless title:
on the 3x3 board:
center: your chance of loosing is 4/9 -> you need approx.11250 games
side: your chance of loosing is 5/9 -> you need approx. 9000 games
edge: your chance of loosing is 6/9 -> you need approx. 7500 games
on the 4x4 board:
all fields: your chance of loosing is 9/16 -> you need approx. 8889 games

if you win 50000 tickets you earn the charmed title:
on the 3x3 board:
you need approx. 5295 games to earn 50000 tickets
it doesnt matter where you are standing!
on the 4x4 board:
you need approx. 26667 games to earn 50000 tickets
it doesnt matter where you are standing!

if you want both titles, here is the cheapest way to get them:
play on the 4x4 board - you should play approx. 26667 games - to play this amount of games you need around 3334 tickets - which will cost you 50k gold - and it will take around 74 hours time!!!

if you want both titles, here is the fastest way to get them:
play on the edge of the 3x3 board - you should play approx. 7500 games - to play this amount of games you need around 4167 tickets - which will cost you 62.5k gold - and it will take around 21 hours time!!!

hope that helps and greetings,
skyfox

p.s.: excuse my english and correct me if i made a mistake

CorstedPirate · Jun 30, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Has anyone managed to get these titles yet, or are all the figures based upon speculation?

It would be lovely to know if they apply to the title KoaBD, regardless I kinda want those titles. Just for the humor of having Hapless under my name. Charmed Hapless Drunk, that has so much appeal to me.

Sweetest · Jun 30, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyfox

if you want both titles, here is the fastest way to get them:
play on the edge of the 3x3 board - you should play approx. 7500 games - to play this amount of games you need around 4167 tickets - which will cost you 62.5k gold - and it will take around 21 hours time!!!

Actually standing on the corner will take you about 15 Hours for the Lucky Title and 20 Hours for the Unlucky

skyfox · Jun 30, 2006, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweetest

Actually standing on the corner will take you about 15 Hours for the Lucky Title and 20 Hours for the Unlucky

i think thats what i wrote too: approx. 10 seconds * 7500 games = 75000 seconds ~ 20,8 hours

shadowfell · Jun 30, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu

ZOMG *reads all the math posts* *brain explodes* X.X

No kidding.. my eyeball just popped out.

Divinus Stella · Jun 30, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

Did you take into account the varied payouts?
In the middle you get 25 for a major win and 15 for a minor, side gets 40 for a major and 15 for a minor and the corners get 55 for a major and 15 for a minor.
For me it worked out that the side squares were the best for the titles as the payout is larger than the 2 other positions over time and you only win slightly more than the corners.

I got 1 thousand tickets this morning and im still breaking even on the games at around 1000 tickets.

skyfox · Jun 30, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

Did you take into account the varied payouts?
In the middle you get 25 for a major win and 15 for a minor, side gets 40 for a major and 15 for a minor and the corners get 55 for a major and 15 for a minor.
For me it worked out that the side squares were the best for the titles as the payout is larger than the 2 other positions over time and you only win slightly more than the corners.

I got 1 thousand tickets this morning and im still breaking even on the games at around 1000 tickets.

i took it into account.

Saelfaer · Jun 30, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

so nw what.
you pay 63 plat
get those 3334 tickets to start
go stand there for 20 hours
what the hell do you get out of it
just the 2 titles? or do you keep tickets afterwards. the ones you won?..

Juicey Shake · Jun 30, 2006, 11:40 AM // 11:40

63 plat? wtf? I spent about 15k and I'm up 200 tickets and I've won over 22k tickets, lost over 1k games, lol.. only been about 6 hrs.

tompilk · Jun 30, 2006, 11:42 AM // 11:42

i spent 2 hours... got 4000 towards lucky and lost 213...
then ill spend my tickets on booze...
Tom

Cash · Jun 30, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchblade

/finger crossing

pls no rank2

amen to that .... pls pls pls no lvl2+

skyfox · Jun 30, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicey Shake

63 plat? wtf? I spent about 15k and I'm up 200 tickets and I've won over 22k tickets, lost over 1k games, lol.. only been about 6 hrs.

you ar a bit slower than my calculation, cause you lost 1000 games within 6 hours -> to loose 5000 games it would take you 5*6 hours = 30 hours and more money.

i think you use another strategy and are not standing on the edge.

p.s.: i hope too, that there is only one lvl of this crazy title!!!

Juicey Shake · Jun 30, 2006, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Standing in the middle has been the most consistent for 'tickets won'.. but not a lot of lost.. I should have all of the ticket's won needed for the first tier by this afternoon, then I'll spend tomorrow night on the 4x4 to get my hapless title.

and it wouldn't cost me more money because I have not been losing any money beyond what I spent. I bought 1,000 tickets, and I have not lost any. The lowest I hit was 750, and I then went to 1,200. It is staying consistently around the number I bought.

Leddy · Jun 30, 2006, 12:13 PM // 12:13

I'm on 21,140 tickets won, 1,432 games lost, nearly 6 hours

Taking ages.

tuna-fish_sushi · Jun 30, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03

im on 27000 tickets won and 1.3k loss >< almost 10 hours i started with little less then 2k tickets now im down to 500

kitten · Jun 30, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

My AFK Gambling results:

Center for 9 rings

266 tickets

4 hours

I came back to having just 9 tickets and it appeared to be that way for about 8 rounds.

GAMBITTHOUGHT · Jun 30, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Were do you Play the games at?

ProtoMMC · Jun 30, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Where is this at?

Witchblade · Jun 30, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

almost half of both titles here .. spent +-20-25k

Asrial · Jun 30, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Okay, here's the bottom line.....

START -> END

1am -> 8am
1950 starting tickets -> 768 tickets

24,508 tickets won
1,723 games lost

I went AFK on a corner in the 9 ring. Now to go read the rest of the posts...